I just responded to Owen's comments in the document, but since Mark can't see it, here is the main comment:
So, as I understand it we will use simple click the link instructions. Provide a paper copy at the meeting (at least for those people who are at the meeting) and send an email version later. The final step will be to email me with Gmail and Delicious info and to email C3 for help.
This all seems fine except I'm not sure why we want emails asking for help to come to all of us. How will we know who is expected or able to respond without some coordination? If we go with a straight "email Bill if you have problems", I can farm out the requests to one of us or one of our volunteers. If we do that, Owen won't need to do any further work on this and I can print it tomorrow morning.
Given the time pressure I really think we should keep things as simple as possible.
Bill
On Feb 11, 2008 9:30 AM, Owen James <okokoj@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Mark & C3ers,
Collecting details on two or more pages (in this case, teachers' usernames & help requests) that are part of a multi-task activity is a job ideally suited to the ELP Teachers' Homepage wiki. It may not be possible to ready that in the time left to us however.
We will have to have a solution that works though. I am a bit tight for time Sunday (TW papers & sundry ARW things), I might have a bit of time at the end of today. Tomorrow early & P1 is busy for me, P2 is clear though.
Best,
Owen.On Feb 11, 2008 7:12 AM, Mark Christianson <markc@icu.ac.jp> wrote:
Hi Bill and Owen,Unfortunately, yesterday and today my home computer is having trouble with opening Google Docs, so I'm not able to weigh in on the Identity debate or the polishing of the basic directions very well.
I would guess that a dual solution of having the online spreadsheet form, but also allowing people to just send info by email as well might be best.See you on Tuesday!Mark
On 2/9/08, Owen James <okokoj@gmail.com> wrote:Dear C3ers,
This is more useful than the current identity data collecting document.
To satisfy privacy concerns, I recommend:
- First names only (surnames can be added to in-house version later)
- Email, include username only. This will thwart spammers email bots e.g. gedoc27@gmail.com
The data can be harvested as a spreadsheet in the same way the current form works, BUT new!, spreadsheets can now be used as a form. To see what I mean, in the spreadsheet, click 'share", then work through the screens that follow "to fill out a form". I played with this yesterday, but did not have enough time to work up a solution - it could probably work, but I am not sure it would be the easiest solution in this particular case.
- Delicious username is OK, it is public anyway
Owen
On Feb 8, 2008 5:39 PM, <WCHrshbarger@gmail.com> wrote:
I've shared a document with you called "ELP 2.0 identity data":
http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=p6NOsQ0Bu9SmniGEJZNS6bw&inv=elpc3@googlegroups.com&t=1891391930298751173&guest
It's not an attachment -- it's stored online at Google Docs. To open this document, just click the link above.
Hi,
I created this spreadsheet to populate with the Gmail, Delicious and
other data that we normally publish. I wasn't sure whether to make
this data public or not. I noticed that Owen has created a simpler
form, but one that may still be public. We need to decide on the
public/private question, but ultimately I think having the data in a
spreadsheet that can be sorted may be most helpful.
Let me know what you think.
Bill
--ELP, International Christian University,
3-10-2 Osawa, Mitaka-shi, Tokyo 181-8585.
Office ph: +81-(0)422-33-3371
Home 0.5: http://okoj.net/james/
Skype ID: owen_james
Delicious ID: okoj
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3-10-2 Osawa, Mitaka-shi, Tokyo 181-8585.
Office ph: +81-(0)422-33-3371
Home 0.5: http://okoj.net/james/
Skype ID: owen_james
Delicious ID: okoj
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Director, English Language Program
International Christian University
3-10-2 Osawa, Mitaka-shi
Tokyo 181-8585
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