Re: Presentation tomorrow

Bill,

"Should I have downloaded the file again or just re-uploaded the one I had downloaded earlier?"

I do not think it would make a difference, but as you have discovered, anything might happen!

I think, we should just go with teachers subscribing individually to their courses. For ARW & RCA, this would mean repeating the step 7 times or so. That wont take very long at all, compared to digging around in HD272, and they get access to everything that is available. It is also an important skill for teachers to learn, so they can use the Reader to collect what they want.

Owen.

On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 2:07 PM, Bill Harshbarger <wcharshbarger@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi,

I tried importing the same file again after deleting everything first.  I got the same folders and feeds, but this time everything was marked as read, and all of the folders when I clicked on them said no items, but if I clicked on any of the feeds in the folders I got items.

Should I have downloaded the file again or just re-uploaded the one I had downloaded earlier?

Bill

On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 1:57 PM, Owen James <okokoj@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi Bill,

You are meeting the kind of problems I encountered. The problem is probably bigger though. If you do it over and import the same file again, it may produce a different folder structure. This means that if 25 teachers import it, there may be 25 different results! Can you try over? Delete everything and re-import. That should give us some indication of any progress.

Best,

Owen.

On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 1:44 PM, Bill Harshbarger <wcharshbarger@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi Owen,

Thanks for all your work on this.  I created a new Google account and uploaded the file you sent me into the reader.

Here is what resulted:

12 folders with a total of 64 feeds.

Some tag feeds seem to be missing -- e.g. ARW VoF and ARW IOR

There is an odd (empty) feed in the CS folder called Public Relations.  I'm not sure where it came from.

Some folders when you click on them say "no items", but if you click on the "+" beside the folder, and then click on one of the feeds listed for that folder, you get items.  The ICU folder is an example.

Overall, the imported reader still looks good and except for the points above seems to work well.  if you want to look at this reader it is in

user: icuelpc3
pw: ourelpC3

The big question is should we have people upload this file even with these glitches?  My feeling is that it is close enough and certainly better than having everyone try to build their own by adding feeds one at a time.  Better to start with an imperfect reader and then add a couple more feeds as needed.  That is my sense anyway.

If it will help, I can try to add any missing feeds to the file as it came into the icuelpc3 reader and then send it to you as a xml file, or would that just yield a less clean file than you have now?

Cheers,

Bill

On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 1:07 PM, Owen James <okokoj@gmail.com> wrote:

Thanks Bill, Please let me know. The previously attached file is now linked to the presentation handout. I added a comment explaining the current situation at the download location. This has been so fiddly, I think I have spent about 5 hours all up trying to get the courses database to import correctly. Best, Owen.

On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 1:00 PM, Bill Harshbarger <wcharshbarger@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi Owen,

Thanks.  I'll plan to use the okok22oj login for the demo and I will try to play with the importing as well.

Cheers,

Bill

On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 12:54 PM, Owen James <okokoj@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi Bill,

This GReader is clean:
un: okok22oj
pw: surf22surf

But its export file is dirty.

The attached file is the file above cleaned up in FeedDemon on my desktop. It needs to be tested by importing it into another (clean) GReader (not helpicu).

If it does not produce the folder structure in okok22oj, I think we should abandon giving teachers the courses database for now.

Instead, teachers can import the course feeds they need one at a time. You should use okok22oj to show what the complete database looks like.

I am really busy today, still.

Cheers,

Owen.

On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 12:40 PM, Bill Harshbarger <wcharshbarger@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi,

I would like to use the helpicu Google Reader for my demonstrations related to searches, etc.  Is the .xml file ready at this point for me to import into the helpicu reader?

Cheers,

Bill

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Director, English Language Program
International Christian University
3-10-2 Osawa, Mitaka-shi
Tokyo 181-8585
+ (81) 422-33-3219
billh@icu.ac.jp
http://indirector.blogspot.com

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3-10-2 Osawa, Mitaka-shi, Tokyo 181-8585.
Office ph: +81-(0)422-33-3371
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Skype ID: owen_james
Delicious ID: okoj

--
Bill Harshbarger, Ph.D.
Director, English Language Program
International Christian University
3-10-2 Osawa, Mitaka-shi
Tokyo 181-8585
+ (81) 422-33-3219
billh@icu.ac.jp
http://indirector.blogspot.com

--
ELP, International Christian University,
3-10-2 Osawa, Mitaka-shi, Tokyo 181-8585.
Office ph: +81-(0)422-33-3371
Home 0.5: http://okoj.net/james/
Skype ID: owen_james
Delicious ID: okoj

--
Bill Harshbarger, Ph.D.
Director, English Language Program
International Christian University
3-10-2 Osawa, Mitaka-shi
Tokyo 181-8585
+ (81) 422-33-3219
billh@icu.ac.jp
http://indirector.blogspot.com

--
ELP, International Christian University,
3-10-2 Osawa, Mitaka-shi, Tokyo 181-8585.
Office ph: +81-(0)422-33-3371
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