Re: ELP report for 9-30-08

Hi C3ers,

Dec 1 best I think.

I think it would also be very useful to have the 'manuals' available before then to help inform the discussion.

At present, staff have had only a brief intro. to Firefox, Gmail, and GDocs, nothing yet on Delicious & tagging, the Reader as information centre, or blogs as course homepages, or using these tools as an integrated work environment to support social work.

And even regarding Gmail, I think we need to discuss moving over to Gmail exclusively within the ELP, peoples' concerns, and the support they feel they need. Then an ELP decision needs to made on the date C3 asks Kobayashi-san to start forwarding all teachers ICU mail to their Gmail accounts.

Rushing,

Owen.

On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 8:48 AM, Bill Harshbarger <wcharshbarger@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi,

Should we plan to put a discussion like this on the agenda for Oct 28? It's the only chance we have left this term.  Can we be ready for it by then? An alternative is to plan for something on Dec 1, when we have two hours for the ELP meeting.  I think the latter would be my preference.

I will announce the work on the manuals. I'm also happy to encourage teachers to explore one or two tags as Mark suggested.  We can put directions on how to access that information in the minutes of the meeting.

Bill

On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 4:52 PM, Owen James <okokoj@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi Bill & C3ers,

I have drafted up draft manuals for coordinators and teachers that I would like to offer for C3 discussion and revision, and then to make available for staff. Knowing that a 'manual' of some kind is coming for staff is useful information.

There is also the looming discussion the ELP needs to have on the realities of working with the C3 plan. The plan calls for changes in individual work practices and certain attitudes that are not yet widely understood or agreed upon.

Best,

Owen.

On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 3:02 PM, Bill Harshbarger <wcharshbarger@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi,

I'm not quite sure what to report for the C3 group at tomorrow's ELP meeting.  Any ideas?

Bill

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International Christian University
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Tokyo 181-8585
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billh@icu.ac.jp
http://indirector.blogspot.com

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Re: ELP report for 9-30-08

Hi,

Should we plan to put a discussion like this on the agenda for Oct 28? It's the only chance we have left this term.  Can we be ready for it by then? An alternative is to plan for something on Dec 1, when we have two hours for the ELP meeting.  I think the latter would be my preference.

I will announce the work on the manuals. I'm also happy to encourage teachers to explore one or two tags as Mark suggested.  We can put directions on how to access that information in the minutes of the meeting.

Bill

On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 4:52 PM, Owen James <okokoj@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi Bill & C3ers,

I have drafted up draft manuals for coordinators and teachers that I would like to offer for C3 discussion and revision, and then to make available for staff. Knowing that a 'manual' of some kind is coming for staff is useful information.

There is also the looming discussion the ELP needs to have on the realities of working with the C3 plan. The plan calls for changes in individual work practices and certain attitudes that are not yet widely understood or agreed upon.

Best,

Owen.

On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 3:02 PM, Bill Harshbarger <wcharshbarger@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi,

I'm not quite sure what to report for the C3 group at tomorrow's ELP meeting.  Any ideas?

Bill

--
Bill Harshbarger, Ph.D.
Director, English Language Program
International Christian University
3-10-2 Osawa, Mitaka-shi
Tokyo 181-8585
+ (81) 422-33-3219
billh@icu.ac.jp
http://indirector.blogspot.com

--
ELP, International Christian University,
3-10-2 Osawa, Mitaka-shi, Tokyo 181-8585.
Office ph: +81-(0)422-33-3371
Home 0.5: http://okoj.net/james/
Skype ID: owen_james
Delicious ID: okoj

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Director, English Language Program
International Christian University
3-10-2 Osawa, Mitaka-shi
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Re: ELP report for 9-30-08

Not sure whether we're ready for this, but perhaps we could share (through a link or two in the minutes) the Delicious archives links to let people browse and see how resources can be accumulated for ARW, RCA etc.

Not the whole list, but just a few as a sampler of what is possible?
I think the ARW IOR link is a good presentation of what could be shared through the C3 system.

http://delicious.com/tag/arwior
http://delicious.com/tag/elpc3

Mark

On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 4:52 PM, Owen James <okokoj@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi Bill & C3ers,

I have drafted up draft manuals for coordinators and teachers that I would like to offer for C3 discussion and revision, and then to make available for staff. Knowing that a 'manual' of some kind is coming for staff is useful information.

There is also the looming discussion the ELP needs to have on the realities of working with the C3 plan. The plan calls for changes in individual work practices and certain attitudes that are not yet widely understood or agreed upon.

Best,

Owen.

On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 3:02 PM, Bill Harshbarger <wcharshbarger@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi,

I'm not quite sure what to report for the C3 group at tomorrow's ELP meeting.  Any ideas?

Bill

--
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Director, English Language Program
International Christian University
3-10-2 Osawa, Mitaka-shi
Tokyo 181-8585
+ (81) 422-33-3219
billh@icu.ac.jp
http://indirector.blogspot.com

--

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3-10-2 Osawa, Mitaka-shi, Tokyo 181-8585.
Office ph: +81-(0)422-33-3371
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Re: ELP report for 9-30-08

Hi Bill & C3ers,

I have drafted up draft manuals for coordinators and teachers that I would like to offer for C3 discussion and revision, and then to make available for staff. Knowing that a 'manual' of some kind is coming for staff is useful information.

There is also the looming discussion the ELP needs to have on the realities of working with the C3 plan. The plan calls for changes in individual work practices and certain attitudes that are not yet widely understood or agreed upon.

Best,

Owen.

On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 3:02 PM, Bill Harshbarger <wcharshbarger@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi,

I'm not quite sure what to report for the C3 group at tomorrow's ELP meeting.  Any ideas?

Bill

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International Christian University
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Tokyo 181-8585
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billh@icu.ac.jp
http://indirector.blogspot.com

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ELP report for 9-30-08

Hi,

I'm not quite sure what to report for the C3 group at tomorrow's ELP meeting.  Any ideas?

Bill

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Re: What's next?

Hi Mark,

Thanks for responding to Owen

On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 1:40 PM, Mark Christianson <markc@icu.ac.jp> wrote:

Hi Owen,

>Folks, I am not sure whether this is the appropriate time or place to raise it, but I looked at the draft JALT presentation. It does capture all lot of my original vision and my ideas on design and implementation, but currently the presentation does not include any acknowledgement of my work.

I think I can speak for all of us when I say there's no doubt in my mind that the main vision and main ideas are yours. Acknowledgements in the slide will definitely be added and I'll consult you about which parts you'd like your name mentioned and how to be referenced such as linking to articles and presentations you've made on this area.

Mark

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Hi C3ers,

Thinking earlier about where we might go from here, I started work on what is currently called "The ELP Create, Share, & Republish Guide" and I am looking forward to getting your feedback on that when next we meet.

Folks, I am not sure whether this is the appropriate time or place to raise it, but I looked at the draft JALT presentation. It does capture all lot of my original vision and my ideas on design and implementation, but currently the presentation does not include any acknowledgement of my work.

Regards,

Owen.

On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 11:03 AM, Bill Harshbarger <wcharshbarger@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi,

First of all, thanks Mark for doing the notes from our Sept. 2 session and thanks to Owen for preparing that session. 

Now, what do we want to do next?

Some options:

• Continue discussion of how to phase in the C3 plan, e.g. the role of coordinators vs individual teachers.
• Reschedule a time for us to learn how to set up blog/coursepages.
• Work on document naming protocols.
• Try to create an organizational structure for distributing information.  e.g. do we want separate blogs for ARW FALL or ARW IOR or ARW IOR PROG C or all of these?
• Examine how blogs and googlegroups can best be used in combination.

Other ideas?

Thanks,

Bill
--
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Director, English Language Program
International Christian University
3-10-2 Osawa, Mitaka-shi
Tokyo 181-8585
+ (81) 422-33-3219
billh@icu.ac.jp
http://indirector.blogspot.com

--
ELP, International Christian University,
3-10-2 Osawa, Mitaka-shi, Tokyo 181-8585.
Office ph: +81-(0)422-33-3371
Home 0.5: http://okoj.net/james/
Skype ID: owen_james
Delicious ID: okoj

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English Language Program
International Christian University
3-10-2 Osawa, Mitaka

Tokyo, Japan 181-8585
Tel: 0422-33-3497
Fax: 0422-33-3500

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Dear Mark,

Thank you for getting back to me on that, I was not really worried at all, I have every confidence in you and other members of C3.

Best,

Owen.

On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 1:40 PM, Mark Christianson <markc@icu.ac.jp> wrote:

Hi Owen,

>Folks, I am not sure whether this is the appropriate time or place to raise it, but I looked at the draft JALT presentation. It does capture all lot of my original vision and my ideas on design and implementation, but currently the presentation does not include any acknowledgement of my work.

I think I can speak for all of us when I say there's no doubt in my mind that the main vision and main ideas are yours. Acknowledgements in the slide will definitely be added and I'll consult you about which parts you'd like your name mentioned and how to be referenced such as linking to articles and presentations you've made on this area.

Mark

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Hi C3ers,

Thinking earlier about where we might go from here, I started work on what is currently called "The ELP Create, Share, & Republish Guide" and I am looking forward to getting your feedback on that when next we meet.

Folks, I am not sure whether this is the appropriate time or place to raise it, but I looked at the draft JALT presentation. It does capture all lot of my original vision and my ideas on design and implementation, but currently the presentation does not include any acknowledgement of my work.

Regards,

Owen.

On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 11:03 AM, Bill Harshbarger <wcharshbarger@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi,

First of all, thanks Mark for doing the notes from our Sept. 2 session and thanks to Owen for preparing that session. 

Now, what do we want to do next?

Some options:

• Continue discussion of how to phase in the C3 plan, e.g. the role of coordinators vs individual teachers.
• Reschedule a time for us to learn how to set up blog/coursepages.
• Work on document naming protocols.
• Try to create an organizational structure for distributing information.  e.g. do we want separate blogs for ARW FALL or ARW IOR or ARW IOR PROG C or all of these?
• Examine how blogs and googlegroups can best be used in combination.

Other ideas?

Thanks,

Bill
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Director, English Language Program
International Christian University
3-10-2 Osawa, Mitaka-shi
Tokyo 181-8585
+ (81) 422-33-3219
billh@icu.ac.jp
http://indirector.blogspot.com

--

ELP, International Christian University,
3-10-2 Osawa, Mitaka-shi, Tokyo 181-8585.
Office ph: +81-(0)422-33-3371
Home 0.5: http://okoj.net/james/
Skype ID: owen_james
Delicious ID: okoj

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English Language Program
International Christian University
3-10-2 Osawa, Mitaka

Tokyo, Japan 181-8585
Tel: 0422-33-3497
Fax: 0422-33-3500

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Re: What's next?

Hi Owen,

>Folks, I am not sure whether this is the appropriate time or place to raise it, but I looked at the draft JALT presentation. It does capture all lot of my original vision and my ideas on design and implementation, but currently the presentation does not include any acknowledgement of my work.

I think I can speak for all of us when I say there's no doubt in my mind that the main vision and main ideas are yours. Acknowledgements in the slide will definitely be added and I'll consult you about which parts you'd like your name mentioned and how to be referenced such as linking to articles and presentations you've made on this area.

Mark

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Hi C3ers,

Thinking earlier about where we might go from here, I started work on what is currently called "The ELP Create, Share, & Republish Guide" and I am looking forward to getting your feedback on that when next we meet.

Folks, I am not sure whether this is the appropriate time or place to raise it, but I looked at the draft JALT presentation. It does capture all lot of my original vision and my ideas on design and implementation, but currently the presentation does not include any acknowledgement of my work.

Regards,

Owen.

On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 11:03 AM, Bill Harshbarger <wcharshbarger@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi,

First of all, thanks Mark for doing the notes from our Sept. 2 session and thanks to Owen for preparing that session. 

Now, what do we want to do next?

Some options:

• Continue discussion of how to phase in the C3 plan, e.g. the role of coordinators vs individual teachers.
• Reschedule a time for us to learn how to set up blog/coursepages.
• Work on document naming protocols.
• Try to create an organizational structure for distributing information.  e.g. do we want separate blogs for ARW FALL or ARW IOR or ARW IOR PROG C or all of these?
• Examine how blogs and googlegroups can best be used in combination.

Other ideas?

Thanks,

Bill
--
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Director, English Language Program
International Christian University
3-10-2 Osawa, Mitaka-shi
Tokyo 181-8585
+ (81) 422-33-3219
billh@icu.ac.jp
http://indirector.blogspot.com

--
ELP, International Christian University,
3-10-2 Osawa, Mitaka-shi, Tokyo 181-8585.
Office ph: +81-(0)422-33-3371
Home 0.5: http://okoj.net/james/
Skype ID: owen_james
Delicious ID: okoj

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English Language Program
International Christian University
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Hi C3ers,

Thinking earlier about where we might go from here, I started work on what is currently called "The ELP Create, Share, & Republish Guide" and I am looking forward to getting your feedback on that when next we meet.

Folks, I am not sure whether this is the appropriate time or place to raise it, but I looked at the draft JALT presentation. It does capture all lot of my original vision and my ideas on design and implementation, but currently the presentation does not include any acknowledgement of my work.

Regards,

Owen.

On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 11:03 AM, Bill Harshbarger <wcharshbarger@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi,

First of all, thanks Mark for doing the notes from our Sept. 2 session and thanks to Owen for preparing that session. 

Now, what do we want to do next?

Some options:

• Continue discussion of how to phase in the C3 plan, e.g. the role of coordinators vs individual teachers.
• Reschedule a time for us to learn how to set up blog/coursepages.
• Work on document naming protocols.
• Try to create an organizational structure for distributing information.  e.g. do we want separate blogs for ARW FALL or ARW IOR or ARW IOR PROG C or all of these?
• Examine how blogs and googlegroups can best be used in combination.

Other ideas?

Thanks,

Bill
--
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Director, English Language Program
International Christian University
3-10-2 Osawa, Mitaka-shi
Tokyo 181-8585
+ (81) 422-33-3219
billh@icu.ac.jp
http://indirector.blogspot.com

--
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3-10-2 Osawa, Mitaka-shi, Tokyo 181-8585.
Office ph: +81-(0)422-33-3371
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Re: What's next?

Thanks, Mark.  I like the idea of focusing on one area like this from the perspective of a new teacher.

Bill

On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 6:01 PM, Mark Christianson <markc@icu.ac.jp> wrote:

Good questions, Bill.

While keeping in mind how to organize the whole ELP system, one short-term goal for us might be to focus on making C3 work really well in just one part of one course like ARW Autumn (IOR) and one beginnner (Audrey?).

I thought of that as I was trying to help Audrey get set up with materials for arwcpc. If a new instructor can easily and conveniently find the things she needs in the C3 system, and can understand how to use and contribute to it, we have a winner. All of the questions Bill listed will need to be solved to some extent.

However, just by opening up the current Delicious tags on Google Reader etc., I wonder if she can find what she needs. I have no problem navigating and finding great stuff on Reader, but it will be interesting to introduce her to it and see what she feels.

That type of focus on Audrey's needs might help us organize our discussion. Just a thought.

Mark

On 9/11/08, Bill Harshbarger <wcharshbarger@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi,

First of all, thanks Mark for doing the notes from our Sept. 2 session and thanks to Owen for preparing that session. 

Now, what do we want to do next?

Some options:

• Continue discussion of how to phase in the C3 plan, e.g. the role of coordinators vs individual teachers.
• Reschedule a time for us to learn how to set up blog/coursepages.
• Work on document naming protocols.
• Try to create an organizational structure for distributing information.  e.g. do we want separate blogs for ARW FALL or ARW IOR or ARW IOR PROG C or all of these?
• Examine how blogs and googlegroups can best be used in combination.

Other ideas?

Thanks,

Bill
--
Bill Harshbarger, Ph.D.
Director, English Language Program
International Christian University
3-10-2 Osawa, Mitaka-shi
Tokyo 181-8585
+ (81) 422-33-3219
billh@icu.ac.jp
http://indirector.blogspot.com

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English Language Program
International Christian University
3-10-2 Osawa, Mitaka

Tokyo, Japan 181-8585
Tel: 0422-33-3497
Fax: 0422-33-3500

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Director, English Language Program
International Christian University
3-10-2 Osawa, Mitaka-shi
Tokyo 181-8585
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billh@icu.ac.jp
http://indirector.blogspot.com

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Re: What's next?

Good questions, Bill.

While keeping in mind how to organize the whole ELP system, one short-term goal for us might be to focus on making C3 work really well in just one part of one course like ARW Autumn (IOR) and one beginnner (Audrey?).

I thought of that as I was trying to help Audrey get set up with materials for arwcpc. If a new instructor can easily and conveniently find the things she needs in the C3 system, and can understand how to use and contribute to it, we have a winner. All of the questions Bill listed will need to be solved to some extent.

However, just by opening up the current Delicious tags on Google Reader etc., I wonder if she can find what she needs. I have no problem navigating and finding great stuff on Reader, but it will be interesting to introduce her to it and see what she feels.

That type of focus on Audrey's needs might help us organize our discussion. Just a thought.

Mark

On 9/11/08, Bill Harshbarger <wcharshbarger@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi,

First of all, thanks Mark for doing the notes from our Sept. 2 session and thanks to Owen for preparing that session. 

Now, what do we want to do next?

Some options:

• Continue discussion of how to phase in the C3 plan, e.g. the role of coordinators vs individual teachers.
• Reschedule a time for us to learn how to set up blog/coursepages.
• Work on document naming protocols.
• Try to create an organizational structure for distributing information.  e.g. do we want separate blogs for ARW FALL or ARW IOR or ARW IOR PROG C or all of these?
• Examine how blogs and googlegroups can best be used in combination.

Other ideas?

Thanks,

Bill
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What's next?

Hi,

First of all, thanks Mark for doing the notes from our Sept. 2 session and thanks to Owen for preparing that session. 

Now, what do we want to do next?

Some options:

• Continue discussion of how to phase in the C3 plan, e.g. the role of coordinators vs individual teachers.
• Reschedule a time for us to learn how to set up blog/coursepages.
• Work on document naming protocols.
• Try to create an organizational structure for distributing information.  e.g. do we want separate blogs for ARW FALL or ARW IOR or ARW IOR PROG C or all of these?
• Examine how blogs and googlegroups can best be used in combination.

Other ideas?

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Re: Rethinking document naming

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Hi C3,

This is definitely worth thinking about some more. Lots of related issues flash, but I feel I still need time to see what the whole picture might look like.

One related point that is that course level sites like ELP ARW Fall should soon be searchable, which might make them a first stop for more teachers. If so, it is worth noting that course sites do return the whole document name when the cursor is rested on it.

Regards,

Owen.

On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 6:11 PM, Mark Christianson <markc@icu.ac.jp> wrote:

I see Bill's point. If we can't find a Reader based solution  to the partial names (like changing the settings with a software download of some sort - or complain to the Google team), it may make sense to re-arrange the protocol. -Mark

On 9/8/08, Bill Harshbarger <wcharshbarger@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi,

One of the more important elements in the C3 plan is creating a document naming system that provides as much clarity and ease of search as possible.  One thing I noticed today is that when tagged documents show up in my Google Reader or in one of the RSS feed boxes on the course homepages, the title of the tagged document is sometimes complete, sometimes not.  I don't know what leads to this variation.  Also, when you put your cursor over the document name in the Reader, you don't see anything, but in the RSS feed boxes I do get a small pop-up which sometimes, but not always, shows the full document name.  I always get a pop up in the RSS feed box, but many times the information is the same as what my cursor is pointing at -- a partial document title.

Unless we can change this situation, we may want to think about not putting things like "ARW CPC" at the beginning of document titles. This information is somewhat redundant since the tag used for the document is already given in the reader. I suggest we put the most relevant information in the document name at the beginning and put the more organizational and tagging information last.  E.g.

Barna: Pre-Reading Questions (Hs08) ARW CPC

which might show up as "Barna: pre-Reading Questions..." in the reader.  I think this would be preferable to getting  "ARW CPC Barna: pre.."

Having all the information is still important for searches and because shared docs in Googledocs don't have tags.  Fortunately, in Googledocs, the full document titles appear.

Other thoughts?

Bill



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http://indirector.blogspot.com

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Re: Rethinking document naming

I see Bill's point. If we can't find a Reader based solution  to the partial names (like changing the settings with a software download of some sort - or complain to the Google team), it may make sense to re-arrange the protocol. -Mark

On 9/8/08, Bill Harshbarger <wcharshbarger@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi,

One of the more important elements in the C3 plan is creating a document naming system that provides as much clarity and ease of search as possible.  One thing I noticed today is that when tagged documents show up in my Google Reader or in one of the RSS feed boxes on the course homepages, the title of the tagged document is sometimes complete, sometimes not.  I don't know what leads to this variation.  Also, when you put your cursor over the document name in the Reader, you don't see anything, but in the RSS feed boxes I do get a small pop-up which sometimes, but not always, shows the full document name.  I always get a pop up in the RSS feed box, but many times the information is the same as what my cursor is pointing at -- a partial document title.

Unless we can change this situation, we may want to think about not putting things like "ARW CPC" at the beginning of document titles. This information is somewhat redundant since the tag used for the document is already given in the reader. I suggest we put the most relevant information in the document name at the beginning and put the more organizational and tagging information last.  E.g.

Barna: Pre-Reading Questions (Hs08) ARW CPC

which might show up as "Barna: pre-Reading Questions..." in the reader.  I think this would be preferable to getting  "ARW CPC Barna: pre.."

Having all the information is still important for searches and because shared docs in Googledocs don't have tags.  Fortunately, in Googledocs, the full document titles appear.

Other thoughts?

Bill



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Director, English Language Program
International Christian University
3-10-2 Osawa, Mitaka-shi
Tokyo 181-8585
+ (81) 422-33-3219
billh@icu.ac.jp
http://indirector.blogspot.com

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Rethinking document naming

Hi,

One of the more important elements in the C3 plan is creating a document naming system that provides as much clarity and ease of search as possible.  One thing I noticed today is that when tagged documents show up in my Google Reader or in one of the RSS feed boxes on the course homepages, the title of the tagged document is sometimes complete, sometimes not.  I don't know what leads to this variation.  Also, when you put your cursor over the document name in the Reader, you don't see anything, but in the RSS feed boxes I do get a small pop-up which sometimes, but not always, shows the full document name.  I always get a pop up in the RSS feed box, but many times the information is the same as what my cursor is pointing at -- a partial document title.

Unless we can change this situation, we may want to think about not putting things like "ARW CPC" at the beginning of document titles. This information is somewhat redundant since the tag used for the document is already given in the reader. I suggest we put the most relevant information in the document name at the beginning and put the more organizational and tagging information last.  E.g.

Barna: Pre-Reading Questions (Hs08) ARW CPC

which might show up as "Barna: pre-Reading Questions..." in the reader.  I think this would be preferable to getting  "ARW CPC Barna: pre.."

Having all the information is still important for searches and because shared docs in Googledocs don't have tags.  Fortunately, in Googledocs, the full document titles appear.

Other thoughts?

Bill



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Re: Today's C3 meeting 2pm will be in ILC-204

Thanks Mark.

On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 9:56 AM, Mark Christianson <markc@icu.ac.jp> wrote:

Sorry for the late email.
I reserved 204 from 2-4pm with the ILC.
It has English operating systems, projector etc.
See you then,
Mark
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Today's C3 meeting 2pm will be in ILC-204

Sorry for the late email.
I reserved 204 from 2-4pm with the ILC.
It has English operating systems, projector etc.
See you then,
Mark
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